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    How come OSA causes you to get up to pee during the night? Can't make out the connection unless it's because your BP goes up or you are not getting proper sleep so your kidneys are in 'daytime' mode.

    Since I've been using the APAP machine I've not had to do this. Bizarre.

  • #2
    Simple one this - it is an evolutionary "fight or flight" response from your body.

    When you have an Apnoea, your body goes into panic mode to wake you up enough to start breathing again. One of our bodies responses to panic is the need to pee.

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    • #3
      peeing for England

      I have been referred to a Urologist and have just started a 'pee' study where I have to keep a log of when and how much. First night of keeping a log was last night and it was 8 times!
      I have had a camera into my bladder (not fun; consider how it gets there) and a sequence of kidney function xrays (not comfortable either as you have a very tight strap across your waist for part of it).
      I'll take a chart from my apap machine when I go back on Monday; so we can check if there is any correlation.
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      • #4
        Prior to starting APAP I used to get up between twelve to fifteen times a night now down to two to three times, like Grumpy had numerous tests and the camera twice (surprising how they can get such a big camera up such a small thing he he) and at one point they wanted to operate on the prostrate, now they have discharged me although I still have an enlarged prostrate.

        Yet another good reason for sorting out sleep problems.

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        • #5
          I was told by my doctor that OSA puts a strain on all your major organs so causes heart problems and bladder problems if the OSA is not treated. It can also cause many other large organs to start to fail.
          If you imagine that your heart beats faster to get the oxygen around your system everything else speeds up too.
          When the OSA is under control you wont need to pee so much during the night.

          Lorraine
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          • #6
            Tricky area this. I have also had a camera into the bladder, and from the discomfort at the time I told the specialist I thought it was box brownie on a stand followed by the photographer and his assistant holding the flash.

            My OSA had not been diagnosed nor my diabetes, nor that back pain at night was connected with fight or flight peeing. The problems only started to shift through improved sleep (new mask plus Apap) and lowering sugar levels.

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            • #7
              Thanx all! That makes sense.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by needaproperkip View Post
                How come OSA causes you to get up to pee during the night? Can't make out the connection unless it's because your BP goes up or you are not getting proper sleep so your kidneys are in 'daytime' mode.

                Since I've been using the APAP machine I've not had to do this. Bizarre.
                It was explained to me by the consultant that low O2 causes some Odema (retaining fluid) which causes the body to release enzymes to act as a diuretic and makes you pee more. I was getting up to pee 5 times a night until I went on CPAP, now I may get up once, often not at all.

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                • #9
                  its official!

                  Saw the Urologist this morning and he confirmed that my nocturnal visits are almost certainly due to OSA. Back to the sleep clinic; though this time with a definite mandate to see a consultant rather than the nurse.

                  Some good came of all the tests though. Whilst inspecting my bladder the Urologist noticed a (very) small lump which he removed. This turned out to be a tiny carcinoma but they are very convinced that they have got all of it.
                  Just got to go through the camera process again every three months. Lucky or what!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Grumpy View Post
                    Saw the Urologist this morning and he confirmed that my nocturnal visits are almost certainly due to OSA. Back to the sleep clinic; though this time with a definite mandate to see a consultant rather than the nurse.

                    Some good came of all the tests though. Whilst inspecting my bladder the Urologist noticed a (very) small lump which he removed. This turned out to be a tiny carcinoma but they are very convinced that they have got all of it.
                    Just got to go through the camera process again every three months. Lucky or what!
                    Sounds like it was just as well you had the camera when you did!

                    Re the urologist confirming regular night peeing due to OSA, I am confused, as succesful treatment using CPAP should reduce that shouldn't it? At least that was partly the answer in my case I think.

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                    • #11
                      Oh Grumpy! Lucky or what? That's awful news and good news all rolled into one!

                      And you just know you actually like the nurse holding your todger in one hand while threading seeming yards of cable ........ Such a wonderful sensation, isn't it?? And the bored look on her face - been threading willies all day, every day for months or years.

                      May you get the all clear time after time for all time.
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                      • #12
                        Barely Awake - OSA causes night peeing. When you are successfully treated, you don't have OSA in effect.
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                        • #13
                          camera

                          Just when you think they have done well to get the camera up there the consultant calls for the forceps! Watching him snip off the offending lump on the colour telly next to the operating table is surreal. What looked like a smallish lump on the screen turned out to be smaller than a grain of rice when it ws out.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tigers Fan View Post
                            Barely Awake - OSA causes night peeing. When you are successfully treated, you don't have OSA in effect.
                            That is what I thought, so Grumpy's CPAP treatment isn't working for him?

                            Can't stop thinking about those forceps, I reckon when the did mine the specialist called for a torch and they tried to insert a street lamp!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Barely Awake View Post
                              That is what I thought, so Grumpy's CPAP treatment isn't working for him?

                              Can't stop thinking about those forceps, I reckon when the did mine the specialist called for a torch and they tried to insert a street lamp!
                              A Street Lamp? You were Lucky.........

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