Resmed Quattro FX - Rave! Rave! Rave!

[Tigers Fan]

Tell them you're going to use it as a nasal mask, silvercarper - it's compact enough!

[silvercarper]

"It's not going to suit everyone, but it has to be worth asking at your clinic!"

Thats if your clinic/hospital supply full face masks. MINE DOES NOT!!!!

[Tigers Fan]

Hi Berneta

Did you see 'Eat Pray Love'? It doesn't answer the chicken and egg thing, either, but it does ask similar questions, albeit in a sanitised way.

TF

[Tigers Fan]

I'll have to agree

Hi silvercarper

If a Ford Focus looks like a Silver Cloud - wheel in each corner, etc - then I'll have to agree that a Quattro FX looks like a Zzz Mask.

http://www.resmed.com/uk/products/quattro_fx/quattro-fx.html?nc=patients

The design concept is utterly different, from its hard shell, removeable cushion to the headgear attachment spider.

The reason I'm raving about the Quattro FX is that it is utterly different to any other I have experienced and want others to know of this fantastic new product. My sleep has improved so much since I started using the mask. It's not going to suit everyone, but it has to be worth asking at your clinic!

But if you want it to be the same as a Zzz, then, for you, it is.

TF

[Berneta]

Chicken or Egg?

Hi TF--can't tell you if we have those changes because we are waking up-- or waking because we have those changes. I suspect the changes are the result of going into a waking state. Now about the waking at 7 AM --that can just be because as we get older we need less sleep--or it may be because of something else entirely. I think our brain has its own alarm clock, or we may just be responding to habits we form. I wake every morning at 3:30 AM (And never set an alarm clock) and check my blood sugar--and usually its low at that time, so I down some orange juice. It doesn't seem to matter what time I go to sleep either--3:30 rolls around and I am wide awake. And sometimes my blood sugar isn't low at all. I just think my brain knows that I have dangerous sugar lows and protects me by waking me at that time. The first law of Nature is Self Preservation.
Now for that Chicken and Egg thing. Every farmer can tell you that eggs will rot if there is no hen to control their temp, soak them with water, and turn them now and then, So the Chicken came first (but may not have looked like the chickens we have today)---then came the egg which hatched because it was properly cared for. All the eggs in hatcheries are cared for with the right temp. humidity, and turning in order for them to hatch. The temp thing continues in the first week--because baby chicks will die if they get too cold. Hence a mother hen cuddles chicks under her feathers to keep them warm. Here at home we use heat lamps to keep the baby chicks we buy warm. They also have to be taught to drink by dipping their beaks into water, Otherwise they die of dehydration. Chickens I know about--wish I knew all about our brains and why we do the things we do, and don't do. I wonder if me waking at 3:30 every morning and you waking at 7 is just a chemical thing--or something more that we can't possibly understand. Our Brains are kinda like Wonderland--who can understand the Mad Hatter? LOL XOX Berneta

[silvercarper]

It does look similar in principle to the ZZZ masks I have used in the past but hopefully a stronger design.

http://www.eu-pap.co.uk/zzz-mask-full-face.html?gclid=CPXu7f2BhqcCFUENfAod2HOOdQ

My ZZZ,s dont like being sat on and have had to repair them with heat shrink tubing.
One thing I disliked with the ZZZ was that air would blast straight into my mouth rather than filling the mask.Does the FX feel that its doing the same.
I dont notice this effect on my F&P Forma

[Tigers Fan]

Chicken or egg

Hi Berneta

A few small leaks, a small rise in pulse, a little peak in SpO2 just as we are waking up. I would love to know if those things happen because we are waking or if those things are what wake us.

Even more, I'd like to know why I wake 95%-ish at 7am five years into retirement.

TF

[Berneta]

New Mask

Hi TF, I'm so happy you finally found a mask that suits you--sounds like you are sleeping well. AHI of 1 is great. My latest check up had an AHI of 1.8--everything else was normal except for a few small mask leaks just as I am waking up. Hope you continue to do well. xxBerneta

[Tigers Fan]

Have received the large size headgear and it makes the mask even more comfortable and easy to use.

[Tigers Fan]

Stats

First night back at home:

Great to have C-Flex, humidifer, heated hose and pillow music again.

AHI = 1

Basal SpO2 94% - min. 91% - av. low 92.9%

Bpm 77.8 - av. low 63

Small leak at 16.5 cm, easily fixed by moving head. When trying for an extra 40 winks, lower straps unfixed, mask refitted (tilting technique for these masks) and straps re-fixed without interrupting air supply.

This is a must try mask for mouth breathers! It gives me long, deep sleep with minimal or no discomfort and virtually no 'typical CPAP problems'.

TF

[Tigers Fan]

Turns out the red lines left by the mask straps were not caused by headgear tension or design per se - but by the hotel pillow being hard enough (and my head heavy enough) to impress the straps onto my cheeks. I hadn't noticed the marks after the one night's use I had before travelling but put that down to early morning rush. However - no marks this morning after sleeping in my own bed with a soft pillow. And boy! yet again - what a delicious, deep sleep!

Stats are ready to download - coming soon.

TF

[symmit]

But nothing, oh! nothing, can detract from the quantity and quality of sleep afforded by this mask. I have a late night coming up - Edita Gruberova and Elina Garanca - so I'm worried about waking in time to get to the airport!

TF

PS Symmit - look at the photos, it's nothing like a ZZZZZ et al.

Glad it's working for you - was comparing the principal - soft silicone cushion, soft shell and no headstraps.

There's a funny story about my last night about to pop up elsewhere...

[Tigers Fan]

Stats - of a sort

On the plus side - Quattro FX for a second night.

On the -ve side - early rise that morning; strange, single bed; no humidifier; no heated hose; no epr.

Result - ten and a half hours sleep, one interruption.

I really had the impression that I was making good a sleep deficit. This mask is so seriously good! I reckon most newbies would take to it like a duck to the millpond.

Noticed two nit-picking 'faults'. 1. If I slide my head across the pillow, it causes the lower strap to pull the mask slightly - there is a need to 'place' one's head upon the pillow. 2. Probably due to using a headgear a size too small - not to mention fat cheeks - I had lines across said cheeks when I woke, gone after a half hour.

But nothing, oh! nothing, can detract from the quantity and quality of sleep afforded by this mask. I have a late night coming up - Edita Gruberova and Elina Garanca - so I'm worried about waking in time to get to the airport!

TF

PS Symmit - look at the photos, it's nothing like a ZZZZZ et al.

[James @ Intus]

We want stats! We want stats! We want stats! We wants stats!

[symmit]

Sounds good - but sounds remarkably similar in design to the other full-face soft masks like the ZZZ mask and it's brothers.

Nice to know the headgear keeps everything together well - what's the venting like?