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  • Help: Where to place my CPAP machine/ filters

    First of all I must apologise if there is a thread on this , but the search box keeps telling me my query is too short despite putting in the above title.

    I got my CPAP machine on 27th April 2009, so I've just turned my first year on CPAP, and it has been an interesting year. But I'm now on my third mask type and most nights I get a few hours of decent sleep.

    I travel on business and spend a minimum of 1 night every week away from home. Last week it was 4 and every night a different location.

    When I first got my CPAP and at every check-up the technician tells me it must be positioned below my head, and the FAQ here says "Make sure that you set up your CPAP machine on a firm ground or floor. Look for a place accessible from your bed. The area should always be clean to avoid dust from accumulating into your CPAP machine. "

    In the average hotel this means on the floor, as a lot of bedside units are level with or higher than the pillows. At home I use a stack of large books to get that "in between the bed and the floor" effect.

    The major drawback is that even with the coarse sponge filter and a fine filter (I have asthma and allergic rhinitis) I still experience "other people's dust" - a smell that isn't your own! I wash and change my filters regularly, stay in reasonable quality hotels and B&Bs, but it isn't very pleasant.

    So, can anyone explain why the machine has to be below my head, particularly when all the manufacturers' videos and images online show machines level with the user? Is it to do with having to use a humidifier?

    And, has anyone any suggestions for tackling the smell of other people's dust - I'm presuming as the air is being forced into my lungs that adding Olbas oil or essential oils to the water or the filters is a no no.

  • #2
    CPAP position

    Hi MrsDanvers, I have been on cpap for the last 5 years, the reason the cpap should be lower than your head is to allow any water that has collected in the hose is allowed to run back, this happens a lot particularly if you are using a humidifier. With regard to placing the cpap on the floor in hotels etc I agree there is an issue with collecting dust especially if the room is carpeted, my simple solution is to have a piece of plastic such as a baby change mat or similar to put my cpap on, easy to keep clean and is easily stored in your cpap carry case, then you are more in control of the things collected and forced into your lungs.
    I don't think direct use of olbas oil on the filter is adviseable but I dare say some in a dish near to your cpap would give a slight aroma.
    Good luck
    Alex.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pavarottiman View Post
      Hi MrsDanvers, I have been on cpap for the last 5 years, the reason the cpap should be lower than your head is to allow any water that has collected in the hose is allowed to run back, this happens a lot particularly if you are using a humidifier. With regard to placing the cpap on the floor in hotels etc I agree there is an issue with collecting dust especially if the room is carpeted, my simple solution is to have a piece of plastic such as a baby change mat or similar to put my cpap on, easy to keep clean and is easily stored in your cpap carry case, then you are more in control of the things collected and forced into your lungs.
      I don't think direct use of olbas oil on the filter is adviseable but I dare say some in a dish near to your cpap would give a slight aroma.
      Good luck
      Alex.
      Simple answer MrsDanvers, I have mine slightly above me on my nice high bedside cabinet ( I have to have it high due to restrictive mobility). I use the CPAP hoselift and I have two of them They hold the hose well above myhead for comfort and I can move my head around. You can get them at http://www.eu-pap.co.uk/products/tubes-hoses.html for £19.95. I have two, one fixed to my bed despite them being portable and the other for camping. The water cannot get up to the top of the lift where the hose turns down. Interestingly, the first time I found myself intaking water was a few weeks ago when it was 'below' me in my tent. I was on a camp bed and my machine on the ground.

      I feel this will do the job for you and it is very portable (would fit in a hanbag!).

      Good Luck and let us know if it works as all these results help others!

      Cheers,
      Joe
      JoeCool

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      • #4
        and a bit more

        Hi MrsDanvers

        Welcome to the forum.

        Agreed - the idea of having the machine lower than your head is to facilitate condensation running back to the machine rather than into your mask. BUT - deal with the condensation and put the machine where ever you like.

        I should think we are just about passed the condensation/rain-out season by now (nigts get warmer, moisture stays in the air). A hose sleeve will certainly take care of any condensation till the autumn. By then, it's a good idea to own an Aussi Heated Hose if you can afford one (£80-ish) and if you do, forget about condensation forever! Put your machine in a place that is convenient for you. Floors always increase the dust risk, of course.

        Olbas Oil will take care of the smells, albeit by being heavily clinical - it is very good for keeping your nostrils clear, mind. A much more pleasant aroma comes from Pur-Sleep - your choice of aromas, actually. Put the Olbas Oil or Pur-Sleep on a pad (I use a folded tissue) just beneaththe air intake of your machine. Please don't put it on the filters or in the humidifier.

        The hose sheath and Pur-Sleep are obtainable from Intus. The heated hose only from Oz.

        TF
        Respironics REMstar 'M' Series APAP.
        Resmed Mirage 'Quattro FX' Full Face Mask with a 'Quattro' headgear.

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        • #5
          Thanks

          Alex, Joe and TF, thanks for the helpful advice. I knew I'd get some support here.

          Now that I know it's all about condensation - not damaging the machine- as I had wondered, I will feel much more comfortable lifting the CPAP off the less than clean floors and experimenting with heights. Last week one place was a stranger to the vacuum-cleaner under the beds and I did resort to putting the CPAP on the bed next to me , in its carry-case. A bit of changing mat sounds a good idea to keep everything clean too.

          Re hoselifts - when I first started using the CPAP and mentioned that I was using my bed headboard as a hoselift I got raised eyebrows from the technician. I could give that a go again and look into getting the portable model.

          I shall try oils on a tissue next to the filter. I think I need some aromatherapy, so I'll look into getting some Pur-Sleep and trying it out. The Olbas is a bit of a "Marmite" thing, but as I've got rhinitis I like the feeling of a clear, unblocked nose that you get from it.

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          • #6
            positioning

            RESMED's own photos of the rather swish new S9 machine have it placed above the head of the user; so doubt that this is a problem.
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