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  • Hose? What hose?

    Eureka!!

    I'll wait till the short hose arrives from Intus and completes the rig, before I post photos, James - but I gotta say ........

    It works!

    Last night was my first with enough of the rig in place to enable me to dangle the mask on the end of the hose vertically downward from a Zerberdy sized spring. And the hose disappears!!

    Back to the days of heaving the duvet up round my ears; turning over without a tangle; no hose catching and skewing the mask, waking me with leakage.

    I've had the APAP on the bedside cabinet and I've had the APAP above my head, but both with the hose un-supported. With the spring, the weight of the hose is supported except for a few grams (don't want the spring putting tension on the mask) and it disappears virtually straight upward from the mask swivel. It's as if the hose doesn't exist!

    Turning over is easy - the mask swivel permits the change of direction while the spring simply flops this way instead of that, following me across the bed.

    With me not there, the spring bends a little more and the mask rests gently on the pillow, ready for tonight.

    I awoke feeling on top of the world, well slept and rested. This had to be an AHI of zero or one! - but it turned out to be 4, though this included a 30 minute snooze on my back this morning.

    Since I've taken Doris into my bed (see Introductions/New hose head bed-partner) my best one night AHI was 2 and for the past week I've averaged 3.8. Les losing weight while I gain it does not detract from my pleasure at this!

    Byoing! Time for bed!

    Tigers Fan
    Respironics REMstar 'M' Series APAP.
    Resmed Mirage 'Quattro FX' Full Face Mask with a 'Quattro' headgear.

  • #2
    Hi Tigers Fan, Zebedee is very non PC these days, all that innuendo might offend people according to our betters Pleased to hear the suspension technique is working for you. You have been quiet for the past few days so I assume you went off to Portugal?

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    • #3
      Portugal?

      Hi Les

      It seems Zebedee and I have more in common than a spring!

      Vienna - in a few days. Angela Gheorghiu in Faust with Roberto Alagna.

      Tigers Fan
      Respironics REMstar 'M' Series APAP.
      Resmed Mirage 'Quattro FX' Full Face Mask with a 'Quattro' headgear.

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      • #4
        That sounds good, havent been to a decent opera since I went to Glyndebourne in the early 90s. I was thinking more of the football when I mention Portugal

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        • #5
          James! Help!

          Hi James

          I can't find the URL you gave me for uploading photos to big for the forum allowance.

          Please tell me again.

          Tigers Fan
          Respironics REMstar 'M' Series APAP.
          Resmed Mirage 'Quattro FX' Full Face Mask with a 'Quattro' headgear.

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          • #6
            New rig with photos

            Hi James

            Here are the photos you've been waiting for!



            Rear view of rig without short hose. The mask hose can go direct to the APAP.



            Doris demonstrating Ultra Mirage Full Face with dangling hose. APAP shelf lip low enough to permit withdrawal of humidifier chamber.



            Rear view again, now with short hose conecting APAP to F&P chamber.



            All goes out of sight behind the headboard.



            Rear view



            Hose connections



            Doris demo



            and on her other side



            Spring tower detail.

            An on-line company sent the wrong colour fleece fabric so I've yet to make and fit insulating sleeves for the short hose and chamber. (Have made, that is!)

            The chamber may not be necessary even in the depths of winter but it's there in case - to collect condensation from the hose before it turns to the vertically downward run to the mask. The Intus sleeve fitted to the 6' hose is doing a grand job of preventing rain-out so far. I have an Oz heated hose ready waiting for the very cold nights. Both long hoses can connect direct to the APAP and by-pass the chamber, of course, as the two wooden units can be moved closer or further apart.

            The spring is supported by a bit of 40 mm chromed tubing. I bought bannister rail from B&Q but yesterday spotted 40 mm chromed drain pipe in the Plumbing Section, much cheaper. The 38 mm internal diameter of this tube allows a CPAP hose fitted with an Intus sleeve to pass through.

            The spring in the photos is not the finished article - that is being made in polished stainless steel and 75 mm longer than the one you can see. The spring will then bend over a little more and give a smoother transition for the hose. It is of 3 mm wire with a 40 mm internal diameter.

            Airedale Springs Ltd and their David Rooke in Technical Sales have been instumental in the development of this rig by very generously supplying springs free of charge. You can find them at www.airedalesprings.co.uk . I have no idea how much they would charge for such a spring should you want one - but ask David for an "Airedale CPAP Spring". You could have it in all sorts of finishes at all sorts of costs.

            I've been using this rig for three nights so far and find it to be absolutely brilliant - it pretty much makes the hose disappear in that it no longer has any of those annoying hose-habits that can drive you nuts. It just snakes upward out of harms way.

            The clamping arrangement behind my headboard is not going to suit every bed but the idea is adaptable. I shall be happy to talk with anyone interested in building a similar rig.

            Tigers Fan
            Last edited by James @ Intus; 8 October 2008, 11:54. Reason: Show a few mages in-line
            Respironics REMstar 'M' Series APAP.
            Resmed Mirage 'Quattro FX' Full Face Mask with a 'Quattro' headgear.

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            • #7
              Looks good to me, a nice piece of engineering, but I wouldn't have expected anything less from you. I got over the problem of the hose by allowing it to slide along the top of the bed head which is an arc of tubular metal. The arc makes it return to one side due to gravity and because it is fed up the back of the bed head the weight of the hose keeps sufficient tension on it for the same reason.

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              • #8
                Wow, some great handy work there TF! You clearly have eye for detail and I had to chuckle at the poor guy wrapped in the white sheets with the mask on

                Puffin set the standard of great posts with his video, your hose rig and picture gallery are equal to it, very very nice. I might just e-mail this to all users.

                I converted some of the pictures from a link to an in-line image to make it easier for people to be amazed at your skills.

                [url]http://www.thismakealink.com/toapicture.jpg[/url]
                [img]http://www.thismakesthepicture.com/showinline.jpg[/img]

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                • #9
                  Feathers all over the place

                  Thank you very much, James and Les.

                  Tigers Fan
                  Respironics REMstar 'M' Series APAP.
                  Resmed Mirage 'Quattro FX' Full Face Mask with a 'Quattro' headgear.

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                  • #10
                    First come - you got it!

                    Airedale Springs Ltd have sent me the final spring - gives a smooth transition for the hose.

                    This means I have a spare spring just a little less than perfect for the rig - the hose exits at a slight angle, is all. It is fine to use, especially if the dangling hose length is longer than mine.

                    If anyone wants to build a rig based on my idea, the spring is yours for free (same as it cost me). Just PM me your mailing address.

                    Tigers Fan
                    Respironics REMstar 'M' Series APAP.
                    Resmed Mirage 'Quattro FX' Full Face Mask with a 'Quattro' headgear.

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                    • #11
                      Oh! That hose!

                      This is so simple - once you know - that probably everyone but me has figured it out, buy just in case .....

                      Do you have difficulty getting a fleece sleeve onto a hose? I had a hell of a job, finally winning with a lot of perseverence.

                      A friend has made the sleeves needed for my rig - two short, two long and two hats for the F&P humidifier chamber (colour co-ordinated with my linen). She took one look at the hose ends - rubber -and thought of how she could make them slippy/slippery. She stuck the hose end into the corner of a little plastic bag and whoosh! the hose went into that sleeve like a rat up a drain-pipe! Either fiddle the plastic bag out of the other end or just cut it to permit hose connection onto the mask or CPAP.

                      Thank you, Lorr Brown - brilliant!

                      Tigers Fan
                      Respironics REMstar 'M' Series APAP.
                      Resmed Mirage 'Quattro FX' Full Face Mask with a 'Quattro' headgear.

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                      • #12
                        Nice one Tigers Fan Great tip.
                        S2S - Sleep2Snore

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                        • #13
                          Hose..."competition"

                          hose sounds a great idea...please enter me into the draw...thanks...fred

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                          • #14
                            Hose comp

                            What Tigers fan has built is brilliant, would love a stepup like that. Would also sort out my tangle problems as a major mover when asleep. Have pulled my machine onto the floor a few times now.
                            Andy
                            Respironics system one auto cpap
                            Fitlife Total Face mask or ZZZ mask

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                            • #15
                              Hose Lift give-away

                              Hey! James

                              As the competition does not appear to be fierce, I put in a bid for a Hose Lift. I'm away from home - and my Zeberdee rig - at the moment, sleeping in a single bed. The sudden re-appearance of a hose in my night life is proving problematic as it seems to like cosying up to my neck - nothing too tight so far but a panic awakening this morning so I all but fell out of the bed.

                              Single beds suck!!

                              Tigers Fan
                              Respironics REMstar 'M' Series APAP.
                              Resmed Mirage 'Quattro FX' Full Face Mask with a 'Quattro' headgear.

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