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    I've just returned from Australia after a 3 week holiday to catch up with my family. I needed to take my CPAP on the plane as I needed to do a lot of driving from the moment we landed and I needed to be awake enough to not be dangerous.

    Six months prior to my holiday, I contacted the Airline to ensure there would be no hassle with taking the machine on board - I thought that in light of the new restrictions governing cabin luggage that this would be best. I also needed to know how I was going to power the machine and I wanted reassurance that everything could be sorted well in advance, leaving me to worrying about other more trivial matters.

    The Airline had an Aviation Medicine department so I naturally assumed they would have a Policy on this and a comprehensive procedure in place to ensure everything would be sorted with the minimum of fuss. It was wrong of me to assume this, as the Airline appeared to be writing the Policy as we went along. The Airline had procedure for people requiring Oxygen while in flight and a procedure for people wishing to use a laptop and they decided to try and fit together the two procedures.

    It was a shambles with three different people from the Av Med department all trying to have a go at getting things in place. Forms were needed to be completed by myself and my Doctor, then I was told they didn't need them, then they did. I was being contacted by Airline staff in three countries at all times of the day & night. They finally said everything was OK - only to tell me on the evening before my flight that I could take the machine on the plane but I couldn't use it!! I did get some sound advice from a fellow OSA sufferer to purchase a "Teleadapt" Inverter to enable me to connect to the plane's electrical system.

    Once on the plane, contrary to the Airline's advice I plugged in the CPAP and enjoyed 5 hours trouble-free sleep - the best sleep I have ever had on any long haul flight. I did have trouble on my return leg as the aircraft used was quite an old 747 400 series which had old-fashioned 2 pin sockets which I didn't have an adaptor for.

    The lesson to learn is:
    Notifiy the Airline early, stand your ground and be assertive, after all, you are the expert in this field.

  • #2
    That's some great info there, thanks.

    Looks like you can buy from TeleAdapt direct here: http://www.teleadapt.com/shop/ There's also a link to a PDF which tells you which airlines have powered seats. Direct link to what seems to be the product you meant: http://www.shop.teleadapt.com/uk/ind...FromFeatured=1

    Which Airline did you fly with? I know these policies and CPAP-awareness varies greatly from airline to airline so it may be handy tie your story to a specific one to complete the picture.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by thebigfella View Post
      The lesson to learn is:
      Notifiy the Airline early, stand your ground and be assertive, after all, you are the expert in this field.
      Very true indeed. If we don't speak up for our rights we tend to get pushed over without any further thought so these money hungry companies can continue witht he conveyor belts.

      Which airline did you travel with?

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      • #4
        Customer Service?

        The Airline was Cathay Pacific and to their credit the return leg cabin staff did try to help where they could. It was mainly the beauracratic Airline office staff who were more concerned with what was Company Policy, rather what they could do to help.

        At the end of the day, Airlines are people movers - nothing more - and we are expected to fit into their predetermined idea of "passenger." If we were considered more as "customers" then maybe and individual requirements would be better served. I am ex-airline and ex-Air Force so I fully understand the necessity to package passengers into neat boxes to facilitate easier handling. OSA sufferers like us make the package harder to compartmentise. If we had an obvious disability, allowances would be made without question, but because we are dealing with our condition in private, Airlines can be reluctant to make changes accordingly.

        Wouldn't it be nice if we could declare our need for CPAP use at the time of booking a flight and for the Ticket Office to say "That's no problem sir/madam we'll make sure your seat has everything you need. Would you like to make use of our on board CPAP facilities and allow us to safely secure your own machine?" Obviously we are a long way from this happening but small steps and all that.

        Sorry about that rant - I get a bit racked off from time to time with the total lack support/understanding/concern I get from Joe Public.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by thebigfella View Post
          Wouldn't it be nice if we could declare our need for CPAP use at the time of booking a flight and for the Ticket Office to say "That's no problem sir/madam we'll make sure your seat has everything you need.
          A universal 110/220V connector to power the machine would be great for starters and solve the biggest part of the issue.

          Originally posted by thebigfella View Post
          Would you like to make use of our on board CPAP facilities and allow us to safely secure your own machine?" Obviously we are a long way from this happening but small steps and all that.
          With pressure settings and hygiene in mind, I doubt that will ever work. Perhaps a BYOM (mask) concept could work. But it doesn't hurt to dream out loud. Stranger things have happened Awareness of our needs would be a major step in the right direction already. That would save explaining the same thing over and over again.

          Originally posted by thebigfella View Post
          Sorry about that rant - I get a bit racked off from time to time with the total lack support/understanding/concern I get from Joe Public.
          No need to be sorry, Joe started this forum for pretty much exactly that reason To give us a voice and talk to people who know what we're on about.

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          • #6
            Just a point to add to this.

            The resmed S6 that I use has an auto multivoltage device built into it so it is purely an issue of the physical connection. It auto detects the different voltages! So I would suggest picking up a connector converter at the airport and just keeping it in the bag with the machine!
            Mart -- Happy CPAP User since 2005.
            Resmed S9 Escape + H5i + Climateline and Quattro FX.
            EPR On and Pressure 12cm.

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            • #7
              Virgin Atlantic

              Interesting thread.
              I need to fly to the USA soon and contacted Virgin Atlantic to ask about using my CPAP machine on the aircrafyt as the return flight is an overnighter.
              A nice lady there told me that the aircraft does not have the ability to supply power to my machine and the only option is to use a battery powered device.
              I am hoping that I might be able to rent a machine for the trip or failing that buy one.
              Any advice or recommendations would be most welcome.
              Chris

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              • #8
                Hi Chris
                take a look at this machine



                battery operated and small.
                Regards and Good Luck, Barry
                Start Weight 167.3 kg 09/05/08 Op. Date 08/06/08 163.9 kg NOW 118.4 kg Lost 48.9 kg or 7 Stone 10lbs 58% of Est. Total Loss, BMI was 50 now 35.3

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                • #9
                  Thanks Puffin,

                  Funnily enough I found that one earlier today and am just formulating a letter to my specialist asking if it will meet my requirements and what I need to do to place an order.

                  Bit of a pain as I am going on the trip because of work and will have to be "very creative" with my expenses to recoup the outlay.

                  Still as long as it is okay it will come in handy for camping and other trips as well having a fall back incase my primary machine should fail.

                  Thanks again for the heads up.

                  I'll keep you posted.

                  Chris

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                  • #10
                    I'm considering the BreatheX Journey too for the next trip. Its only limitation is the reduced pressure range (preserves battery juice I guess) but it still suits me at 8 to 10.

                    Spare batteries are also a lot more affordable than other models so getting multiples for a longer trip is feasible. I've read some even charge batteries off a solar panel on their RV/camper.

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                    • #11
                      Hi Joe I've looked at and use a solar panel for battery charging in my camper. A 13w panel, which is about .75m2 in area will only return approx. .5 amps per hours charging during sunny, Autumn, winter and spring days. And 1.5 amps during sunny summer days. Optimum charging comes from having the panel at right angles to the sun at all times, so you have to keep moving it to follow the sun. Ideal for getting a few more hours from a battery during summer but you would be lucky to completely recharge a nearly flat battery during one day.
                      Regards and Good Luck, Barry
                      Start Weight 167.3 kg 09/05/08 Op. Date 08/06/08 163.9 kg NOW 118.4 kg Lost 48.9 kg or 7 Stone 10lbs 58% of Est. Total Loss, BMI was 50 now 35.3

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                      • #12
                        We are experiencing the exact issues . My wife uses a Resmed S8 CPAP machine and we are going to be first time overseas travellers in July.
                        Made initial booking to London and return from Melbourne with Emerites and then found out day later that we could not take her machine on board. $300 cancellation fee and up to 15 days for refund to go thru.
                        We have rebooked with Cathay Pacific and get conflicting advice from the various people at their office. A newsletter we spotted from a Sleep Apnoea users group in Australia mentioned that some airlines permitted cpap machines on board and some do not--Cathay Pacific was one of the ones on the approved list on their newsletter, but we are still not sure what will happen when we get to Tullamarine. Wish us well folks!!!

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                        • #13
                          Lots of luck Kevin. Please let us know how you get on when you return from your trip. Hope you have a great time.
                          Kind regards, Tricia

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kevin Hoy View Post
                            We are experiencing the exact issues . My wife uses a Resmed S8 CPAP machine and we are going to be first time overseas travellers in July.
                            Made initial booking to London and return from Melbourne with Emerites and then found out day later that we could not take her machine on board. $300 cancellation fee and up to 15 days for refund to go thru.
                            We have rebooked with Cathay Pacific and get conflicting advice from the various people at their office. A newsletter we spotted from a Sleep Apnoea users group in Australia mentioned that some airlines permitted cpap machines on board and some do not--Cathay Pacific was one of the ones on the approved list on their newsletter, but we are still not sure what will happen when we get to Tullamarine. Wish us well folks!!!
                            Just a folow up to my message last March. We found Cathay Pacific to be most helpful with regard to my wife taking her Resmed CPAP machine on our flight to Heathrow--they could not have been more helpful and I would certainly recommend the company if you need to travel with a CPAP machine

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